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EP193: Kelly Diels on Culture Making, Intersectional Feminism, and More

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Kelly Diels is a Culture Maker. She’s a fierce and loving mama bear whose work revolves around intersectional feminism, social justice, and marketing that doesn’t leverage oppression. In this interview Kelly helps define and clarify a lot of terms that help us navigate the intense and interesting times we’re living in right now. Some of these terms include: Intersectional Feminism, “calling in” vs “ calling out”, white fragility, and more. She helps us understand a variety of ways we’ve internalized our own oppression and therefore become unintentionally complicit in its perpetuation. We also covered the Liberation Framework, self-care, personal accountability, and intent vs impact. Kelly is brilliant, well-versed, well-studied, and has a ton of experience navigating these tender and important topics. She helped to refine a lot of complex things throughout our chat, and she does it with so much love, passion, AND compassion. This is likely an episode you’ll want to bookmark and listen to more than once. It’s also perfect for inviting friends to check out so you can have some deep chats together about what we cover here. Enjoy! xo

About Kelly Diels:

Kelly is a writer and marketing consultant and her approach is based upon the marketing strategies of movements and revolutionaries (if you’ve worked with her you’ll be able to testify). Her chief inspirations for how to get visible and get sh*t done are the Dr. Reverend Martin Luther King Jr – the man was a master strategist – and the black lesbian feminist poet Audre Lorde. She is a published writer and social critic; She has a BA with honours in Poli Sci; She has five children; every Sunday she writes blazing epistles of righteousness, and she is a rampant feminist. Her feminism and her work are about justice.

Love + Justice. Always and for all of us.

In this episode, Kelly shares:

1. Make an unconditional commitment to doing better (it’s not an overnight thing)
2. There are no saviors
3. How and why to build your analysis
4. The kind of actions that can have positive impact right now

What You’ll Hear:

8:07 On Intersectional Feminism, intentions, impact, and feedback
16:55 Calling people in vs calling people out
23:52 Finding first and onlys, learning from people who don’t look like you, and not being here to suffer
31:50 White fragility + emotional labor
40:37 Ethnic ambiguity, the liberation framework, and using your voice

Black Girl Dangerous
Leverage To Lead
Diversity is an Asset Course
Andréa Ranae Johnson – Coaching as Activism
Janet Mock
Bell Hooks
Audra Lorde
Gloria Steinem
Decolonizing Yoga
L’Erin Alta
Lianne Raymond
Wild Soul Toolkit
The Work of Byron Katie
We are The Culture Makers Facebook Group
Everyday Feminism
The Body is Not an Apology – Sonya Renee Taylor
Men Explain Things to Me by Rebecca Solnit
Elliott Hulse On Masculine Archetypes And Becoming A King
On Being Podcast – Marie Howe
Shrill by Lindy West
Tara Gentile Facebook Post
Lorna Simpson Article
I Am Not Your Negro
Ella Baker and the Black Freedom Movement by Barbara Ransby

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EP193: Kelly Diels on Culture Making, Intersectional Feminism, and More