Today’s episode is all about gaslighting, cancel culture, accountability and getting free.

I’m always excited to share guests with you, but this week, I finally got my dear friend Staci Jordan Shelton on the show. It took me over a year…maybe longer. And you will see, it was worth the wait! Staci’s big truth was that she doesn’t let people gaslight themselves. From there we discussed what gaslighting and cancel culture actually are and how they function since they are terms that gets thrown around a lot.

We talked about the importance of context, the difference between shame and accountability and why conflict isn’t bad; and we got into why cancel culture isn’t the way, but ignoring patterns of behavior doesn’t help people get free either.

We also touched on implementation and how sustained change can only happen over time, the lies that hold people hostage, the importance of having hobbies and something I’ve been thinking about so much in the last year – what it’s like to be the strong friend and how to navigate getting the support you need, too, even if people don’t think you need it!

Enjoy, share, and let us know what you think!



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From Staci Jordan Shelton

I’m a performance consultant and coach with over 25-years of experience coaching, training and mentoring leaders and change agents close performance and profit gaps and get amazing results. 

I’m the creator of the UNRAVELED and ANEW methods and frameworks for getting free from the things that keep you stuck, playing small, and unconsciously sabotaging your success.  

My passion, purpose and mission are setting you free from the beliefs, binaries and behaviors that hold you hostage and keep you from showing up powerfully.  

I will tell you the truth in love, ask questions that guide you back to humanity, truth, honesty and integrity…AND that get you where you want and need to be. 

Connect with Staci:
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In this episode about gaslighting and cancel culture we discuss

  • [4:58] How Staci feels in her body right now
  • [6:52] Staci’s definition of gaslighting
  • [11:26] How context is often missing on social media
  • [14:47] Why anger isn’t negative
  • [20:08] Dealing with people who can’t handle uncomfortable situations and conflict
  • [24:30] How some people don’t like feeling their feelings
  • [26:16] The impact of emotional violence
  • [32:25] How disagreement doesn’t equal disrespect
  • [35:15] What it means to shame someone
  • [37:38] Using unconditional integrity
  • [44:05] Giving people feedback when needed, even if it’s not easy
  • [48:57] Why you need to prioritize joy
  • [53:54] The themes that are present for Elizabeth and Staci this year
  • [59:05] Why you need to check on your strong friends
  • [01:05:31] Being compassionate to others without allowing abuse
  • [01:08:54] How a lot of men aren’t equipped to be with strong women
  • [01:12:27] Creating a space and sub-community for black women

Resources from today’s episode



Quotes from this Week’s Episode of the Embodied Podcast

  • “Anytime someone’s trying to shift blame or avoid accountability or blame the other person for how they responded that’s just classic gaslighting.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “Context is everything.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “Nobody should have to write a dissertation to appease your understanding.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “Anger isn’t negative, it’s an emotion.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “It’s very unloving to let people stay in their shit. You may not even understand that you’re doing this thing, but let’s talk about that and unpack that.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “If you can’t navigate disagreement or hurt feelings I understand where it comes from, but you still have to deal with it.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “So many people don’t like feeling their feelings.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • Just because you understand why someone is being awful doesn’t mean you need to endure them being awful.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “We have to start treating emotional violence the same way we treat physical violence.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “Joy for me is fuel and it gives me space and hope.” – Staci Jordan Shelton
  • “Healing happens in community.” – Staci Jordan Shelton

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About the Embodied Podcast with Elizabeth DiAlto

Since 2013 I’ve been developing a body of work that helps women embody self-love, healing, and wholeness. We do this by focusing on the four levels of consciousness – physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual.

In practical terms, this looks like exploring tools and practices to help you tune into the deep wisdom of the body and the knowing of the heart, which I believe are gateways to our souls. Then we cultivate a new relationship with our minds that allows the mind to serve this wisdom and knowledge and soul connection, rather than override it, which is what many of us were taught.

The show runs in seasons now and this season we’re focusing on my EMBODIED Self Love Framework.

We’ll be looking at Self Awareness, Self Knowledge, Self Acceptance, Self Trust, and Self Respect – with a bonus episode on Boundaries as well.

If you’ve been doing self-help or spiritual development work for a while, these are the types of foundational things that often people overlook in pursuit of fancier concepts that often aren’t practical or sustainable. Here, we will focus on building these strong foundations so you can honestly and thoroughly embody self-love. If you’re feeling it, subscribe to the show, and leave us a review wherever you listen from. You can also keep up with show updates and community discussions on Instagram here.