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If you’re a long time listener you know I am a geek for healthy and conscious communication strategies and today’s episodes is centered around just that.

Alexandra Jamieson is back on the show with her partner, Bob Gower sharing their “Getting To Hell Yes” conversation framework. Alex’s big truth was that she can’t do bullshit. Bob’s was that it’s better to have a boundary that’s too strong.

From there we got into all things that go into having high stakes conversations: how to express emotions responsibly without derailing conversations, how anger and rage can be productive or destructive, and what the responsibility is of people with boundaries when interacting with folks who clearly don’t have them. We also spent some time on power dynamics and Alex and Bob shared their four part conversation framework which includes intentions, concerns, boundaries and outcomes.

I loved this chat and will be re-listening a few times myself. I hope you get a lot out of it as well and share it up with those who could also use it!


About Alexandra Jamieson:

Alexandra Jamieson is a success mentor, life, and health coach to creative, professional women who want it all. She is the best-selling author of Women, Food & Desire, co-creator and co-star of the Oscar-nominated documentary Super Size Me, and highly-sought-after wellness expert. Find out more about Alex at

About Bob Gower:

Bob Gower helps organizations move faster, create better products, and become happier, more engaging places to work. He is an authority on agile software development, lean theory, and responsive organizational design, and has advised leaders at numerous companies—including GE, Ford, Chanel, PG&E, and Spotify—in creating more effective organizations. He is the author of Agile Business: A Leader’s Guide to Harnessing Complexity and speaks regularly on organizational development and leadership. Find out more about Bob at

What You’ll Hear:

7:51 Getting to Hell Yes
14:57 The idea or assumption that emotions might ruin something
25:48 The framework for a structured conversation
45:22 Mapping the mindfields and making assumptions
47:32 The responsibility of someone who has healthy boundaries

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Getting To Hell Yes by Alex Jamieson and Bob Gower

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