Our world is experiencing atrocious and unthinkable trauma, and over consuming and sharing on social media can be incredibly overwhelming and unhelpful. Today, we discuss the importance of regulating ourselves in a variety of ways during times of crisis and what we can do as individuals to contribute to positive change.

Shifting towards collectivism, trust, cooperation, and humility takes time and patience, as does any healing process. Throughout the episode, you’ll hear offerings for how to maintain as much emotional balance as possible during chaotic times, honor your capacity for contributions, and prioritize yourself as a means to reduce collective energetic upheaval.

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In episode 443 of the Embodied Podcast we discuss:

(3:22) The essential qualities of villages

(7:30) Navigating disinformation and misinformation on social media 

(12:14) Protecting your emotional well-being while staying informed during difficult times 

(16:24) How to avoid adding chaotic and dysregulated energy to the collective during crises

(21:34) The necessity of integration for sustainable change 

(23:55) The paragraph surrounding Audre Lorde’s quote, “the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house” 

(26:39) Honoring the function of a collective and why trying to do more than our share can perpetuate systems of oppression 

(32:32) An invitation for group discussions and reflections

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Quotes from this Week’s Episode of the Embodied Podcast: 

  • One thing we really have to do is honor ourselves as individuals within a collective and honor the function of a collective. 
  • It’s one thing to have a vision for something that you really believe in and know that you’re gonna have to build towards it. It’s another thing to be demanding things that are out of the realm of possibility, and then getting all upset that it’s not happening. 
  • It is not an embodied approach, and it’s certainly not a sacred approach, to over consume media or social media and fry your nervous system.
  • It’s important, when possible, to find balance between consumption and regulation.
  • Patriarchy and colonialism are what make us think we need to overextend and sacrifice ourselves when others are suffering by adding our own suffering. 
  • You are able to take responsibility for your own energy and for your own emotions, and not contribute to collective energetic and emotional upheaval.

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About the Embodied Podcast with Elizabeth DiAlto

Since 2013 I’ve been developing a body of work that helps women embody self-love, healing, and wholeness. We do this by focusing on the four levels of consciousness – physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual.

In practical terms, this looks like exploring tools and practices to help you tune into the deep wisdom of the body and the knowing of the heart, which I believe are gateways to our souls. Then we cultivate a new relationship with our minds that allows the mind to serve this wisdom and knowledge and soul connection, rather than override it, which is what many of us were taught.

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Transcript for Episode 443 “On Healing and Change“:

Elizabeth DiAlto  00:00

So one thing we really have to do is honor ourselves as individuals within a collective and honor the function of a collective. how some people are better equipped for certain things and others how we can’t all have or do it all. And we’re not met and supposed to. Hello, everybody. This is episode number 443 of the Embodied Podcast. I am your host, Elizabeth DiAlto. And before we dive into today’s episode, I want to invite all of you to attend our new wild Soul Sunday services. I began hosting these this month in October of 2023. And we’re definitely at least doing them through the new year, maybe even indefinitely. So far. I’m loving doing them. I’m getting incredible feedback and messages from people who are attending to them or watching the recordings. It’s basically my wild dream for a non religious church experience. A sacred inclusive and liberatory church, weekly temple space for women to gather, move and pray. It’s also kid friendly. You know, if you have kids around, I know some of you this podcast is not kid friendly. But wild Soul Sunday services are absolutely kid friendly, the purpose of it is so you can ground into the energy of sacredness within you and around you and bring that into each new week. We’re doing them right now on Sundays at 11am. Eastern, they last somewhere between 75 to 90 minutes, the recordings are available for everyone for 48 hours. And if you’re a part of our membership, the recordings also go into our archives. So you have access to them for the duration of your whole entire membership. These are totally free. And I wanted to do this. To just gather with folks give people a way to shake off the energy, the unneeded energy and release the unneeded energy from the previous week, set the tone for a beautiful new one. And here’s some comments from people who have been coming. This is just from this past week, our theme was on grief and the Divine Mother, someone said body and soul are grateful for today’s sermon, thank you for the continued space to access tools that helped me refill my own cup and step further into my own faith. So I could be more grounded, resourced human being out in the world supporting others, definitely started off tired and had a moment that I just wanted to wrap myself in a blanket and nap. Then the body started talking and asking for support. Now I feel more supported. Somebody else shared I love getting to start my Sundays with these. And the gentle music and movement in this one felt so loving and nourishing. The sermon was gorgeous, and something I’m sitting in and feeling very held by I’ll be visiting family for a couple of weeks soon. And I know I’ll be carrying this sermon with me for strength and gentleness and compassion in the interactions I have with them. And so you know, we have a little theme every week I give a little short sermon. And then we have a wild soul fusion class which combines our wild soul wisdom, our wild soul flow, we have a mantra we have an amazing playlist. It’s very alchemical. So come check that out. If you go to untamed yourself.com, forward slash links, there’s a link right there on that page for wild Soul Sunday services. There’s also links for everything else we ever do and everything we have going on, on that page as well. So that’s just a very useful link to remember around here. untamed yourself.com forward slash links.

Elizabeth DiAlto  03:22

So to get into today’s episode, we left off last week’s conversation about spiritual Futurism and mystical leadership, talking about how people say they want collectivism. But what’s a little bit of a problem or a lot a bit of a problem depending on how optimistic or pessimistic or realistic you might be, is that in most places, and in most cases, we can’t just leap in to such a dramatic, cultural, societal shift, there have to be steps because we are so individualistic, at least in the part of the world where I’m coming from. Most people aren’t ready for the villages they so emphatically claim to want and that is not a judgment. It’s just kind of the reality we’re living in. Villages require trust, receptivity, listening, generosity, communication, humility, cooperation, paying attention, selflessness and also boundaries and leadership. They function and flourish when the community members are allowed to do their parts. And when they know what the things they have capacity and capability to do, actually, our villages function and flourish when all contributions however big or small, are respected, included and appreciated, where nobody is extracted and nobody is excluded. oppression and toxic power dynamics cannot be the law of the land. And in a lot of ways, oppression and toxic power dynamics are still the dominant law of the land. There are little pockets of villages little pockets of collectivism. I know many of us are cultivating this in our own little nearby can Unity is, or maybe in our online spaces and communities, which is a beautiful thing. But in order for like the whole culture, the whole society to go in that direction, it’s going to take a lot. And it’s probably going to take more time than any of us really wish it would. But I say probably because, listen, you never know, miracles are possible. But something I see happening a lot, is people like, crying out for things, and getting themselves all hopped up and angry and enraged that things aren’t happening, because their expectations are way off. So it’s one thing to have a vision for something that you really believe in, and that you know, is possible. But you also know that you’re gonna have to build towards it. It’s another thing to be like demanding things that are kind of out of the realm of possibility, and then getting all upset that it’s not happening. That’s kind of a waste of time. So last week, I talked about how the age of the Guru is over. So as the age of the martyr, that shit doesn’t work in a world where people will gladly abdicate their responsibilities, and let anyone who’s inclined to doing too much pick up far more than they share than their share, until they burn themselves out and make themselves sick. And we’re out here watching people who can’t even comment on fucking Instagram posts without treating their fellow human beings like animals. It’s ridiculous. And so obviously, we think those people are going to turn around and like be able to do community and collectivism and be part of villages, I don’t think so. And again, what that does is that leaves a lion’s share for the people who can do it and want to do it, and care enough to do it. But that is not sustainable. For only a very small group of people to be doing the bulk of the work not for a shift this big, that obviously we are desperately in need of so talked about this during the sermon, part of wild Soul Sunday service last week, October 22 2023. And I’ll share a bit of that here as well. And listen, I’m not saying these things, you know, people are a little attached to their very black and white and nuanced definitions of positivity and negativity. So even though I might be saying some stuff here, that doesn’t sound positive, I also believe that truthfulness is positive.

Elizabeth DiAlto  07:22

Right because deluding ourselves is quite negative. So take that however you want to take it agree or disagree, it’s totally fine. But I’m going to share what I shared in the wild Soul Sunday service. And this is also an example of me doing my part. I’m not really on social media anymore. So you’re rarely going to see me posting anything on there anymore. Maybe a little reminders or announcements about offerings here and there. But social media is just not the place where I’m doing my online digital, communicating, connecting and communing with people anymore. But there are brilliant folks who are built for and doing an amazing job of sharing useful resources and helping us get the information we need during times of wild DIS and misinformation. And by the way, I mentioned this last week, I mixed the two up all the time I looked up the difference. Disinformation is when people are intentionally spreading information they know is not valid, true or accurate. misinformation is when people are sharing information that’s not valid, true or accurate by accident. So it’s disinformation when it’s intentional. It’s misinformation, when people just don’t realize that they’re spreading things that aren’t true, which unfortunately, both are rampant right now. And one of the problems one of the reasons why that is is because of social media, is because anyone can sound like an authority. And in some cases, it’s really hard to vet people’s sources. And people will read things that are like opinion, or conjecture, and take it as fact, and then go turn around sharing it, spreading it telling their own people about it. And it’s not it’s not correct. It’s not true. It’s not accurate.

Elizabeth DiAlto  07:22

So if you’re listening to this podcast, like, at another time, like down the road in the future, as I’m recording this, we are all up in what’s going on in Israel and Hamas that conflict. We’re all up in, like literally watching genocide and Palestine happened before our very eyes. And obviously, there’s a lot of things to have big feelings about. This is an atrocious thing. And this is also I was listening to a video Carolyn mace did about it last week, and she was quoting a rabbi that she had been listening to saying calling this this is the unthinkable. I mean, and this is one of the defining traits of our times is this hubris. And when I say our times I even mean like post World War Two, post World War Two, a lot of people never thought we’d see something like this again, right. And you know, we had Vietnam War. Obviously, there’s wars all over the world. Last year with the Ukraine. People were freaking out. I don’t think people expected to see something like that happening again. Especially not in Europe. There’s things that happen all over the world and other places, especially that involve brown and black. bodied people, that doesn’t even make the news and doesn’t get the attention or the resources in the way that something for example, like in Europe, in the Ukraine, or adjacent to Europe would. So people are, people are freaking out, this is what happens, right? This is what happened in 2020, we had a pandemic in the United States, there was a big racial Reckoning and awakening happening. And again, a lot, a lot of times people are shocked, they can’t believe it’s happening. But one of the reasons they can’t believe it’s happening is because something we’re also not good at in these times, is knowing our history, and being present to what what never stopped happening, in some cases, to certain groups of people. And so I’m bringing this all of this up, and I’m saying this like this, because I might be able to just reference things like that, but it’s not my place to give you like the historical breakdown. So that’s not my area of liberation work, right? That is not my specialty, that is not something I have tremendous aptitude, capacity or capability for. And that is why I make sure that I follow people who do who are incredible curators, aggregators of reliable, as reliable as possible information, and stuff like that. But what I’ve also seen on social media, because during times like this, I will I’ll tune back in and I’ll be like, how’s it going over there, because I know what’s going to be a shit show. I have just seen way, way, way too much unhelpful stuff on social media, to not say something about it. Because this is where I do have an aptitude. This is where I have capacity and capability. And this is where I can speak into things with nuance, and also the energetics of a thing that might really help some people to either regulate or focus themselves. If they’ve been feeling really in upheaval, emotional turmoil, like freaking out, out of control, not knowing what to do with themselves in ways that are really unhelpful, and and useful. So if you feel like attacked, or called out by anything about to say, I just want you to remember, I’m never out here shaming anyone, I’m always out here, lovingly inviting folks to do their best with what they have. And more than anything, to take responsibility for themselves, their energy, their emotions, and make choices that are good for themselves, and also the rest of us as often as possible.

Elizabeth DiAlto  12:14

So I’m not a believer that don’t look away. during times like these, when heinous things are happening before our very eyes. I don’t believe that that means you have to over consume media and social media, and fry your nervous system. In order to demonstrate that you give a shit about the world and what’s happening, I just don’t, especially because in addition to what’s going on in the world, you might have things going on in your own life. And forcing yourself to look at and watch things is what some people are encouraging people to do, don’t look away, if they have to live through it, we should have to look at it. It’s a privilege to not to be able to look away. But I’m going to say something about that in a second, too. It is not an embodied approach. And it’s certainly not a sacred approach to again, over consume media or social media, to fry your nervous system to just walk around completely emotionally, and energetically dysregulated. You can be a deeply caring, feeling concerned, person, active person, contributing what is possible for you to contribute, without forcing yourself to look at read, listen to or watch things that physically, mentally or emotionally harm you. It’s important when possible, to find balance between consumption and regulation. And I know people like to throw around the word privilege, like it’s dirty. And like it is an attack if you have it. And listen, we all have some privilege. A lot of us have like layers, different layers and different kinds and forms of privilege. We also all have times in our lives, when we are the ones that something tragic or heinous has happened to only most often. Our personal tragedies don’t happen on the world stage or aren’t newsworthy. But that doesn’t mean they shatter our worlds any less. And I point this out because I don’t think this is something a lot of people think about. If you’re just watching people holler about what’s on the news that feels like it’s the most important thing which Listen, sometimes it is. But how many things are the most important, significant life altering thing that’s ever happened to you that the whole world is never going to know about? And everybody matters equally. That’s what liberation says. Everybody matters equally. There are times when some people need more support than others. Right and that’s putting it like very lightly and very simply. But, again, during these times When we are people who have heinous or atrocious things happening in our lives, that are ripping our worlds apart, we don’t have the option or the privilege of pausing our engagement with what’s happening to us to tend to our nervous systems. And while what’s happening to us at various points in our lives, might not ever be as atrocious as what’s happening to people in Israel and Palestine right now, for example, playing the game of calculating who suffers the most is gross, unnecessary and also dehumanizing. That said, energetically, when we are the ones directly affected by something, all we can really do is get through it. Again, like I said earlier, we don’t have the options or the privileges, that people who are not going through what we’re going through, do. But when we’re not the people being directly affected by something, one of the most important things we can do to contribute to ending the suffering of those who are directly affected, is to not be adding extra frenetic, chaotic, dramatic, stressed fearful, traumatic, dysregulated energy to the collective.

Elizabeth DiAlto  16:24

In those moments, we are the ones with more space and availability, to hold down frequencies of love, grace, hope, the possibility for peace, healing and liberation, for those who can’t. Because they are literally dealing with the acute trauma of what is happening. We might be feeling it by observation, but it’s at a distance for us. And if you’re a person with distance, there are things that you can do to contribute to the people right up in it that you may not have realized before. And that’s what I’m talking about today. Doesn’t mean that you ever completely disengage and don’t do things like call your representatives donate where you can, other forms of socially tangible action protest, if that’s your thing. But true liberation always looks at the both the yes ends, it considers the many concurrent troops of a thing and asks us to be honest about what we’re best equipped, capable of and have the capacity to do. This is where our energy is best spent. It’s not privileged behavior, to just honestly look at a thing and go Got it. I might be feeling away about this, but I am not directly impacted or affected. That means I have capacity and capability of holding different energy, regulating myself in ways people who are all up in it can’t. So I damn well should make the effort to do that, rather than getting caught up in the collective emotional freakout energy and turmoil because that doesn’t help. That’s literally like pouring gasoline on a fire in already a burning house. Whereas you could be water instead of gasoline. So it’s like, do you want to be gasoline? Or do you want to be water. And I see a lot of people being gasoline on social media right now. And during any times like these when there’s stuff like this going on, right? And I’m saying stuff like this, that that’s all encompassing of anything that’s heinous, atrocious, violent, dehumanizing, all the shit that we see. Which is always happening all over the world in some capacity to some group of people or another.

Elizabeth DiAlto  18:36

patriarchy and colonialism are what make us think we need to overextend and sacrifice ourselves when others are suffering by adding our own suffering, which is optional and avoidable to the collective soup of suffering, that is not optional and avoidable, again, is not helpful to those suffering acutely. So hope that makes sense. I’m speaking about the energetics. And my prayer for this message is that it’s clarifying healing and liberating for those who have felt completely off the rails and out of control emotionally over the last few weeks with what’s currently going on, or anytime, where some big thing has been going on in the world. And validating, affirming and encouraging for those who’ve been operating more on the level of what I wrote about what I talked about here. Right, like the prayer really is May we all be the best possible instruments, conduits and forces for love, healing, Grace, peace, possibility, courage, compassion, empathy, reverence, sacredness, and above all else, the eradication of violence and war, and things like genocide and apartheid. Right. And when I say people being directly affected, I also want to acknowledge that there’s nuanced layers to that too. Because you might not be in Israel or Palestine. You might have family there. You might be Jewish, you might be Palestinian, you might have some other very close tie. Your connection, maybe you’re someone in your family is a dear friend, like, you could be directly or indirectly affected in various ways, making you much closer to it than, again, someone like me, for example, who I’m not a lot of you listening or not. And it’s our choice to be completely emotionally dysregulated or be dumping and spewing all over social media, when there’s better things that we could do with our energy, we could be handling our emotions, not again, adding to the collective soup of emotional turmoil, we could be taking all these various actions that we’re able to take, which by the way, prayer is a valid action. I wrote a post many years ago, I didn’t pull it up. So I don’t have the exact words. But it was basically to the effect of anyone who’s never experienced the miraculous impactful grace of prayer would obviously be the people saying that prayer doesn’t count as a valuable action for mystics and spiritual seekers. And it doesn’t matter what you believe in if you’re religious, not religious, whatever denomination of whatever. If you are, have some kind of faith or connected to the divine in some way, and you’re a person who prays, you know, prayer is always a valid option and a valid action. Again, pray and do other things. But don’t stop praying. And don’t let anyone shame you out of the significance of your prayer, or convince you that your efforts are better spent elsewhere. If prayer is something that you do, that you believe in.

Elizabeth DiAlto  21:34

So as as much as people want radical change, when our physical bodies, namely, our nervous systems, as well as our mental, emotional energetic bodies are part of the equation titration is always necessary. We see this in healing experiences all the time, very rarely, or big peak experiences also catalysts for immediate change, immediate change in perspective, yes, but actual life change and transformation takes time, peak experiences, or big shifts in perspective, wake us up and bring things to our attention that we then need to integrate work on and calibrate you. Anyone who demands instant or immediate change doesn’t understand how healing or change work. Miraculous breakthrough shifts are, of course possible. But in order to be sustainable afterwards, integration is necessary. And whenever you’re working with groups of people, there’s so many variables. I also mentioned towards the end of last week’s episode, that if you’re a person who has ever been like, hyper independent in your life, or maybe still is, you know, the I can do it myself type of person, you get this because you know how hard it can be to let people help you. If you’re a person who’s recovered from hyper independence, hyper vigilance, or a control freak, who tries to do everything themselves, you know that that took you time, you didn’t just wake up one morning and go, I’m not going to do that anymore. takes practice. It takes time. And in different relationships, and in different categories and scenarios. You got to build your trust, you got to build your faith, you got to do the confidence comes from evidence thing, where you start asking for help people start helping you and you realize it’s safe to do that. So how do we get here? Right? How did we get here with a lot of these things? First of all, there are no straight answers. I don’t have like perfect or straight answers. We are all collectively laying bricks and carving out pathways as we go. And for those of us who are mystics and spiritual seekers, that’s our way that’s always our way. We operate on faith we surrender we trust, we put one foot in front of the other, we listen we correct course when we need to. And that’s what spiritual futurism is really about. If we’re going to unhook from systems of oppression, patriarchy, colonialism, white supremacy, homophobia, fatphobia, xenophobia, all the Archies isms and phobias, we have to honor the sacredness within and around us, within everything. And within all of us. We have to let people be and breathe and move at the paces that are appropriate for them.

Elizabeth DiAlto  23:55

Most people who listen this podcast have probably heard the Audrey Lorde, quote, The Masters tools will never dismantle the Masters House that comes from a whole essay of the same name that you can share, you can find it online. It’s also in the book Sister Outsider, which is a collection of her essays. I highly recommend the whole book, one of my other favorite essays of all time uses of the erotic, the erotic is power, which was assigned to me by one of my teachers reais, who’s been on the podcast before. And now I assign it to all of my trainees and sacred embodiment specialist training, because it’s so powerful and important. When again, I’m just mentioning that other essay because I think everybody should own and read SR outsider more than once all the time, maybe every year. But back to the statement. The Masters tools will never dismantle the Masters House. We’re dealing with a huge paradox in our current times. We have urgent needs as a human race. and nervous systems do not respond well to urgency, and I mean individual nervous systems but also collective nervous systems, of places of regions of countries of communities. So coming back to the quote from the essay, we always hear that one sentence The Masters tools will never dismantle the Masters House. But the paragraph, the whole paragraph and section around it is so significant I’m going to read this year. As women, we have been taught either to ignore our differences or to view them as causes for separation and suspicion rather than US forces for change. Without community there is no liberation, only the most vulnerable and temporary armistice between an individual and her oppression. But community must not mean a shedding of our differences, nor as a pathetic pretense that these differences do not exist. Those of us who stand outside the circles of this side is definition of acceptable women, those of us who have been forged in the crucibles of difference, those of us who are poor, who are lesbians who are black, who are older, know that survival is not an academic skill. It is learning how to stand alone, unpopular and sometimes reviled, and how to make common cause with those others identified as outside the structures in order to define and seek a world in which we can all flourish. It is learning how to take our differences and make them strengths for the Masters tools will never dismantle the Masters House, they may allow us temporarily to beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change. And this fact, is only threatening to those women who still define the Masters House as their only source of support. So again, those words were from Audrey Lorde, those are not my words, I highly recommend getting the book of her essays and speeches, SR outsider for more to read the whole essay and for more of her essays and speeches.

Elizabeth DiAlto  26:39

So one thing we really have to do is honor ourselves as individuals within a collective and honor the function of a collective, how some people are better equipped for certain things and others how we can’t all have or do it all. And we’re not met and supposed to, like Audrey Lord said, like we have these differences. They can be strengths, they don’t have to be reasons for separation and suspicion. So we see people refusing to get these very basic truths in different ways. But the result is the same individuals doing too damn much people having more on their plates than any one person should. People over consuming so much from food and substances to entertainment, information and responsibility. We need to be constantly aware of how systems thrive when we as individuals try to do more than our share. And listen, there are times in our lives where we kind of have to write I’m not saying it’s always an option. But it’s a real problem when we’re consistently always doing more than our share, and not just more than our share. But like way more than our share, which is what a lot of us do. It’s just like enabling energy vampires, as long as we keep doing too much. They’re not ever going to do their part, they’re going to stay being energy vampires. So what makes this particularly challenging is when so much is burning and going to shit. When there’s so much crisis occurring and impending, it can really feel like there’s more to do than any of us could ever even if we work together. And that’s where we need. What I’ve been talking about spiritual futurism. That’s where we need doses of surrender, faith, courage and truth. We also need capacity and willingness. And all these things are part of spiritual futurism. Over the next few weeks, I’ve invited some school sacred embodiment community members to share their healing journeys with you. And again, I just want to say this little ranty in this episode, I usually try not to do this. But I’m a little ranty in this episode, because not everyone has the capacity, willingness or understanding to do their emotional and their energetic work. But if you listen to this podcast, you do. This is our part, this is what we came here to do. All of us doesn’t matter what your job is, what your vocation is, you don’t have to be a coach, a healer, whatever. If you’re a person listening to this podcast, I don’t care if this is the first time you’ve ever listened to the show. You came across this episode, because you have some capacity or capability, you are able to take responsibility for your own energy and for your own emotions, and not contribute to collective energetic and emotional upheaval, especially during times like this, when those of us who don’t have to be in upheaval need to not be so that we can hold the energy for the people who have to be. And so one of the reasons I wanted to have some healing conversations with members of our community on the show here, which and I plan to this, this is a you can’t make this shit up. I planned this before this stuff got started going on. But most current things started going on in the world with Israel, Hamas and Palestine. Because I really believe people need to have a better understanding of how healing and change work

Elizabeth DiAlto  29:36

so they can shift their expectations and again, begin to do a better job of focusing on what they can actually do. Whatever incremental change, they can make, whatever contributions big small, whatever size they can make. It all adds up and we need all of it like these are all hands on deck situations, but not in the way a lot of people have been putting their hands on the decks. So in the spirit While dreaming, which is a practice, I’ve been guiding people through for a decade, much more deeply and intentionally for the last three or four years. The intention of these interviews coming up in the next few weeks, is to help people see what’s possible. So in these conversations, we’re going to chat about many aspects of healing, growth and liberation journeys. And not just the work our community members have done with us in the School of sacred embodiment, but also any work that they’ve done in the realm of healing, growth and liberation. Because one of the things that I’m always telling people about what we do in the School of sacred embodiment is our work. It’s great work on its own. And it’s also very amplifying and catalyzing for any other work that you might be doing that you might need to do. That’s not in our scope of practice, right? Your deep trauma, healing, your deep education and social justice and liberation and TI and things like that. Just to name a few things, right. We don’t specialize in everything, but what we do, can catalyze absolutely anything. I like to say it’s like the loop for everything else like the WD 40. To make everything else go better or more easily. In these upcoming interviews. We’re also going to get into the art, the causes and the movements that these people are passionate about supporting. Because purposefulness, and lifting as you climb, and that’s a phrase that comes from Mary Church. Terrell is also a big part of spiritual futurism. And as I mentioned, and talk more about spiritual futurism, I’m constantly gonna remind you, I am not inventing spiritual futurism, I might be talking about it more, I might be coming up with a working definition of it for us in the School of sacred embodiment, for those of you who listen to this podcast, which is a point of reference, but what this is asking us to do is integrate where we’ve been where we’re going, our indigenous and ancestral histories and Heritage’s spirituality that has been existing, that just needs to be updated and integrated, and reassessed and recalibrated from modern times. So thank you so much for listening. This was episode number 443. The shownotes are at untamed yourself.com forward slash podcast. Again, if you want to check out a wild Soul Sunday service, those are totally free. And they’re not like oh, come to this thing for free so we can pitch you other things. They’re just free. Like, it’s literally like going to regular church, although I know regular church sends around a donation thing or you know, asks you to do stuff. We just gather, pray and move together on Sunday. That’s what we do. Okay? So no pressure come if you want to come, there’s recordings, but untamed yourself.com forward slash links, if you want to get on the list to receive information about that. Other than that, again, I hope this this episode was helpful for people share it, spread it around.

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This is one of those episodes, that’s a good conversation piece, to listen to with friends and be like, hey, what do you think about that part? Gather like book club, this one, your podcast club, this one to be like, What can we do? Like what’s ours to do? What are we all really good at? You know, it’s also a great thing to do with your friends, reflect friends, family member loved ones, whoever people who know you well reflect back to each other, what you’re well equipped to do. Because fairly often, we don’t even realize when we’re well equipped to do something. Because it comes so naturally and easy to us. It doesn’t feel like it’s anything at all right? And we might tell ourselves, well, that’s not enough or that’s not a big deal. But to people who your gifts, talents, skills, capacities, capabilities don’t come naturally to it could be very impactful. So do not sell yourself short, in our own community. For those people who are in the free wild soul community on mighty networks, where we talk about this stuff. I really hope we can have a vibrant conversation about this episode, even if we need to challenge each other a little bit and really dig in around some of the nuances. You know, we’re always up for that. Alright, that’s it, y’all. See you next week.